Wikipedia talk:Introduction

This is not the page to ask for help or to experiment.
	This page is for discussion of the Introduction pages themselves. You may be looking for one of the following pages: Wikipedia:Sandbox - For experimenting editing. Wikipedia:Help desk - For questions about Wikipedia and editing. Wikipedia:Reference desk - For questions on factual topics (for example: Who is the pope?)

Tutorials
Introduction to Wikipedia Introduction to editing (main tutorial) Fundamentals of editing Learning the ropes A Primer for newcomers Linky tutorial Scartol, on template use and design Dweller, on Featured Article Candidates Yuser, on fighting linkspam Deletion and deletionism Reporting and dealing with vandals The Rambling Man, on vandalism Grutness's guide to stubbing External interfaces – let's compare Internal interfaces – what do you use? Summary of policies How to use an ImageMap Getting an article to featured article status Basic dispute resolution Adding citations See also: Wikipedia: The Missing Manual

First Comment

All the introduction talk pages point here for a more centralized discussion. Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 12:19, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The reason we had the discussion links pointing to a separate page, was because this page is overwhelmingly active to have on one's watchlist. I'm not going to watchlist this page now, either, so don't reply to me here! ;-) -- Quiddity (talk) 20:30, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Working on it... gotta work on some zzzs first !Lee∴V (talk • contribs) 01:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia video tutorial-1-Editing-en.ogv

What about inserting the new video? The sound is a bit out of sync, but hopefully someone fixes that soon... File:Wikipedia video tutorial-1-Editing-en.ogv --Kozuch (talk) 00:46, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Another reason is that the format used is out of date; for example, the search bar has changed places, and the editing bars are different.

Ora Stendar 01:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Page unlocked

Does that have a reason??? --Kozuch (talk) 02:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Query

Is there a particular reason we are encouraging editors to edit our introduction page which we hope that new users will read??? With the only except of please no profanity. I propose this page be protected and the encouragement to edit it removed. Point them to the sandbox. —Charles Edward ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 21:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree. This is supposed to be a good-quality page, and instead we are actually prompting users to vandalize the page. This is akin to teaching editors to vandalize the encyclopedia. I plan to remove the "feel free to edit below this line" text, and then possibly replace it with a link to the sandbox, which is where this type of behavior is more appropriate, as long as there is no objection. Immunize (talk) 00:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the line. Maybe the page should indeed have indefinite semi-protection. Dougweller (talk) 09:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

.....& the bot has replaced it..... I'm not keen on any kind of protection as it would give the wrong signals to new users - most of the edits here are the first edit by a new account and I feel it is important that the "anyone can edit" ethos is retained as much as possible. To be honest the actual real vandalism is minimal, most edits here are of the completely harmless "Hello I'm me" variety & regardless the bots clear out the majority of it in a timely fashion anyway. Nancy ^talk 12:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, fine with me. I thought they were supposed to use the sandbox and this was just a glitch of some sort. Dougweller (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

This page is linked from the first page many new users see when they first visit us (the "anyone can edit" part of the banner on the top of the Main page links to Wikipedia:Introduction directly; several of the other links in the banner link there indirectly). They may not know about the sandbox and even if there's a link on this page to the Sandbox, they may be expecting to be able to edit this page immediately instead of being forced to go to another one if they want to edit. Besides, if the argument is "this page should be clean", but we're sending users to another page to do test edits anyway, one which presumably will not be "clean", what problem is solved? —Soap— 15:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

That's more a problem when the header is removed. I remember a suggestion for an abuse filter in a similar context, that would prevent the header from being removed. Cenarium (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Add cy

Please add cy:Wicipedia:Cyflwyniad. Thanks. -- Xxglennxx ^★talk_{contributions★} 00:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

interwiki de

Please add:

[[de:Wikipedia:Erste Schritte]]

--User1812011 13:20, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Y Done. That was actually on a template Template:Introduction_to_Wikipedia that isnt full-protected, so it can be edited by anyone with "autoconfirmed" permissions (10 edits over 4 or more days). —Soap— 13:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Synergistically?

Would 'collaboratively' be a more common and less jargon-y word. It's also the name of the linked page. Ocaasi (talk) 21:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Anomalocaris, 1 March 2011

Wikipedia's own article Click here lists several expert sources that strongly discourage the use of "click here". Please remove all occurrences of "click here" from this article, including what shows up on the View Source page. —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

That content is stored at {{Introduction to Wikipedia}}. It is only semi-protected. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:05, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Typo

In the main introduction: "They are are allowed to improve Wikipedia if they can." Since I don't have write access, can someone delete that second "are"? Thanks. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Reorg

Is there still any reason to have these introduction pages using templates called {{Please don't change this page}}, {{Please don't edit this page}} and {{Introduction to Wikipedia}} rather than just including the text directly on the pages. There may have been a good reason in 2005 when there wasn't any page protection but with all these pages protected, I can't see a reason myself and am considering moving the templates over the pages. -- WOSlinker (talk) 23:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I would like to second this question, with the following additional point: when you hover over a link to this page, what you see is the warning, not the introduction to the page itself. It makes it look like a bad link... Thanks for doing something to address this. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:57, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 January 2012

Minor typo in the paragraph about donating: the projects running costs should have an apostrophe in projects: the project's running costs. Cheers Honestrosewater (talk) 02:21, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Honestrosewater (talk) 02:21, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Thanks for noticing! Qwyrxian (talk) 03:30, 18 January 2012 (UTC)